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Posted: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 4:00 pm

I would like to comment on Mike Zoril’s article “Obama did gut workfare rules.”

Mike conveniently left out that Robert Rector is a senior research fellow for the right wing think tank The Heritage Foundation. That information you left out does matter. Robert Rector also writes for the Wall Street Journal and the National Review, all right wing extremist publications.

In 1995, the Wall Street Journal called Rector the “leading guru” behind the Republicans’ position on welfare.

According to the fact checkers, President Obama did not waive work requirements, and they are still in place. Robert Rector didn’t like the truth from the fact checkers, so he decided to make up his own story. Like Judge Marilyn Milian from the Peoples Court would say, “I wouldn’t believe Robert Rector if his tongue came notarized.”

Rector recently declared that there’s no poverty in America, because the poor have things like video games, microwaves and window air conditioners. I guess to be poor according to the right, you have to live in a mud hut with a dirt floor and eat from garbage cans.

Nice try Mike Zoril. I wouldn’t believe you if your tongue came notarized either.

Kimberly Ellenberger

Beloit

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15 comments:

  • billtinder posted at 2:39 pm on Thu, Oct 11, 2012.

    billtinder Posts: 4907

    For all my friends out here (both of you), I'm pleased to announce that I was able to advance to the online voting in wjvl's karaoke contest last night and currently have a solid lock on 1% of the votes, I think.
    Anyway for all those of you that are sick of my presence here, this is your opportunity to help ship me off to Nashville. Or you could log on to wjvl.com and vote for someone else. Whatever!

    My name is Bill Tinder and I approved this message.[smile]

     
  • FF posted at 7:41 am on Sun, Oct 7, 2012.

    FF Posts: 5

    If you like Greece, Spain, and France, vote for Mr. Obama. That's where he's taking us. USA as we know it, is going broke. Only pain and sorrow from all of us will fix it, if it's even fixable.

     
  • billtinder posted at 9:39 pm on Sat, Oct 6, 2012.

    billtinder Posts: 4907

    Yeah, I think he might have made some outlandish promise that if he doesn't get those eggs eaten within his first term, then he won't be deserving of another one and won't run again. Sounds like one of those hokey promises that the habitually lying politicians are prone to make just to get elected.

    We won't fall for that again, will we?

     
  • luckydog posted at 10:12 pm on Fri, Oct 5, 2012.

    luckydog Posts: 3636

    No Bill, but he has probably claimed that he can.

     
  • billtinder posted at 6:59 pm on Thu, Oct 4, 2012.

    billtinder Posts: 4907

    Well.... it is today!

    Hey lucky, did you know that Mitt can eat 50 eggs?

     
  • Mr Data posted at 6:11 pm on Thu, Oct 4, 2012.

    Mr Data Posts: 4440

    Mike .. Cool Hand Luke once said .."the problem here is a failure to communicate."

    HOW TRUE!.

    The communication problem is that liberals only talk - they never listen. They are always - always - right. They are never wrong, never responsible, never accountable for anything.

    Just ask them.

    It must be tough to be so perfect.

     
  • Mike_Zoril posted at 7:49 am on Thu, Oct 4, 2012.

    Mike_Zoril Posts: 2896

    Opinions, by the very definition, are biased. Everybody has a 1st amendment right to them.

    Where in my 9/26/2012 letter did I cite an opinion and call it a fact?

     
  • luckydog posted at 7:05 am on Thu, Oct 4, 2012.

    luckydog Posts: 3636

    Mike facts are truly facts. The problem is that you keep citing opinions from biased sources and calling them "facts." That's sort of like Fox "News."

     
  • Bond posted at 10:15 pm on Wed, Oct 3, 2012.

    Bond Posts: 17

    So Kimberly does this mean that we are suppose to only believe the Lefties?

     
  • Mike_Zoril posted at 7:20 pm on Wed, Oct 3, 2012.

    Mike_Zoril Posts: 2896

    edit to below:

    "Mike conveniently left out that Robert Rector is a senior research fellow for the right wing think tank The Heritage Foundation. "

    So what?

    ***My copy/paste didn't work correctly.***

     
  • Mike_Zoril posted at 7:17 pm on Wed, Oct 3, 2012.

    Mike_Zoril Posts: 2896

    Facts are facts. They can either be true or false, but nothing else. It makes no difference which foundation or person states the facts. The conclusions drawn off the facts can vary, but the facts do not.

    "Robert Rector didn’t like the truth from the fact checkers, so he decided to make up his own story."

    So what?

    "Robert Rector also writes for the Wall Street Journal and the National Review, all right wing extremist publications."

    The Wall Street Journal and the National Review are right wing extremist publications? Really? Based on what? The letter does not say.

    "According to the fact checkers, President Obama did not waive work requirements, and they are still in place."

    My letter states that the fact checks are letting Obama get away with it, but this letter refutes none of the points my letter raised.

    "Robert Rector didn’t like the truth from the fact checkers, so he decided to make up his own story."

    How does the author know what Rector likes and does not like? On what basis does she claim he is making up a story? Her letter doesn't say!

    "I guess to be poor according to the right, you have to live in a mud hut with a dirt floor and eat from garbage cans."

    Who on the right said that?

     
  • Closetheborder posted at 6:04 pm on Wed, Oct 3, 2012.

    Closetheborder Posts: 124

    What's the Frequency Kenneth?

     
  • luckydog posted at 5:41 pm on Wed, Oct 3, 2012.

    luckydog Posts: 3636

    No mike, your letter contains right wing propaganda masquerading as factual information. I have seen so many letters from other righties using the Heritage Foundation as source material. All of it is hopelessly biased. It does matter what your source material is. And she did offer up factual information. The fact checkers have indeed debunked this clearly inaccurate claim. She also included some very accurate information on Robert Rector that gives truth to her claims of his bias. The only personal attack on you might be her last line which was maybe a little over the top. Funny, but a little over the top.

     
  • Mike_Zoril posted at 5:21 pm on Wed, Oct 3, 2012.

    Mike_Zoril Posts: 2896

    Kimberly Ellenberger's attack on Robert Rector is merely a red herring and her letter is a classic example of how the radical left tries to influence public opinion by using emotions instead of facts. I also consider her letter a personal attack on me.

    My letter contained factual information. The Kimberly Ellenberger letter contains zero factual information to refute any claims made in my letter.

     
  • Mentor397 posted at 4:14 pm on Wed, Oct 3, 2012.

    Mentor397 Posts: 1642

    The Wall Street Journal is extremist? Hmm...

     

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